Is DeepMind taking over Google?
August 11, 2026
The Mates sit down with Kush Bavaria to discuss Sergey Brin’s return to Gemini, AI agents escaping containment, bots overtaking human web traffic, China’s billion-agent simulations, and compute becoming a tradable asset.
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Peter H. Diamandis, MD, is the Founder of XPRIZE, Singularity University, ZeroG, and A360
Salim Ismail is the founder of Open ExO, a GP at Exponential Venture Capital/The Organizational Singularity Fund and a sought after global speaker and thought leader.
Dave Blundin is the founder & GP of Link Ventures
Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross is a computer scientist and founder of Reified
Kush Bavaria is the co-founder and CEO of Ornn, a company building financial infrastructure and markets for AI compute. His work focuses on making compute a tradable commodity and expanding how AI infrastructure is financed.
Chapters
00:00 – AI disruption, frontier labs and the future of compute
06:47 – China’s billion-agent simulation and the future of governance
21:52 – Bots surpass humans and reshape the internet
32:36 – AI agents escaping containment and cybersecurity risks
49:30 – Sergey Brin’s return and the race for AI leadership
1:07:29 – Turning compute into a tradable global market
1:22:26 – How AI is transforming education and universities
1:33:53 – The value of PhDs in a rapidly changing world
1:39:39 – Preparing students for an AI-driven future
1:51:00 – New research on the origins of life on Earth
2:03:45 – Engineering Earth and extending its habitability
2:11:54 – AI competition, robotics, abundance and the future economy
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*Recorded on August 10th, 2026
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