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The arrival of AGI | Shane Legg (co-founder of DeepMind)

Shane Legg, Chief AGI Scientist and co-founder of Google DeepMind, has been talking about artificial general intelligence, or AGI, for more than a decade. So what’s changed? According to Shane, now is the time to take it seriously.

In this episode, Shane walks host Hannah Fry through his AGI framework, breaking down the levels from minimal AGI to full AGI, and his timelines for each. They discuss the economic and societal shifts AGI will bring, the potential impact on work, and the extraordinary possibilities for human flourishing.

Timecodes
00:00 Coming up
00:41 Intro
13:43 Defining artificial general intelligence
26:20 Ethics of AGI
40:10 Societal and economic transformation
45:10 Future of work
50:00 Potential for human flourishing

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